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Wysardry

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I've just seen that The Novel Factory is now number 5 out of the 10 best creative writing programs at toptenreviews.com:-

The Best Creative Writing Software of 2017
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That's very exciting! Thanks for drawing it to our attention!

Shame their table states that we don't have plot or character development though, when we blatantly do. 

There must have been an issue with them finding those features or something, which probably bears us looking at...

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“It's extremely useful in organizing and making me think about what I write. The advice was invaluable, and the step-by-step instructions guided me extremely well through the writing process, allowing me to develop characters and plot a lot further than expected.” - See more at: http://www.novel-software.com/writingsoftwaretestimonials.aspx#sthash.0smYiFBM.dpuf
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That's very exciting! Thanks for drawing it to our attention!

Shame their table states that we don't have plot or character development though, when we blatantly do. 

There must have been an issue with them finding those features or something, which probably bears us looking at...

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“It's extremely useful in organizing and making me think about what I write. The advice was invaluable, and the step-by-step instructions guided me extremely well through the writing process, allowing me to develop characters and plot a lot further than expected.” - See more at: http://www.novel-software.com/writingsoftwaretestimonials.aspx#sthash.0smYiFBM.dpuf
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I think the chart on that overview page is messed up somehow, as they mention those features and show them on the chart on their review page. On that page, it shows that Novel Factory is only missing the following features:-
  • Dictionary/Thesaurus
  • Insert Headers & Footers
  • Micro/Macro Zoom
For some reason, the reviewer seemed to think that The Hero's Journey was the only plot structure available, so possibly the alternate templates need to be made more obvious.
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I read their review and was puzzled by their ignorance of the product, also by their opinion that it is useful mainly for beginners. They obviously don't spend very long working with the software that they review. No mention of the ability to add plot points, extra acts, even to develop your own template (a more advance skill imho).

The same mistakes were made with some other programs I looked at. It puzzled me that Power Structure was their number 2 choice when it is abandonware. Not a bad program if you're very anal about writing, but unsupported.
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Interesting - I find the best has been on my system for years! Managed to draft my novel MIXED FORTUNES using WriteItNow, but for some reason - novelty (?) discovered Scrivener and went with that for the writing. Now experimenting with the best of WiN and Novel Factory. I like the timeline on WiN.
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I realise this is a Novel Factory forum, but please tell me what you like about WIN. I had the silly, non saving trial on my laptop for about a year before persuading myself to purchase it. Still not sure I like it and that it was worth the money. I would love to hear your experience.
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Bear in mind I am exploring WiN as enthusiastically as I am Novel Factory. I found NF's approach to Premise, Short Synopsis, Extended Synopsis extremely helpful in forcing me to articulate that which was hovering in my mind/imagination. Against that, I found/find NF's approach to Character less than satisfying in that the space allocated takes up so much space on the screen which does not allow for overall view of all characters whereas Win has the list of characters by name in a column down the left side and each opens to their own window accessing many more options among Personal and Other relationships than does NF.
WiN then focuses on Events which suits my thinking more so than Scenes in that one could have a scene (visual) without an event but not an event without a scene.
A major standout for Novel Factory is the ability to store links to research. Both store Notes in a similar way, but I would find it handy to have a note section against character in addition to all the preformatted available notes.
Encouraged to try Novel Factory by a writer who uses NF and Scrivener on two screens, I tried NF on one and Scrivener on my second screen until reading that WriteItNow is so highly regarded.
Having woken this morning with the final situation clarified; having identified a plot pit while swimming I am now back at my desk with both programs open - still exploring. [smile] Both screens open (once I close this.)

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How can anyone evaluate creative writing software without completing a work, that has succeeded in some way? TopTenReviews (TTR) can't possibly have enough staff, with sufficient success and in depth knowledge, to evaluate any software packages. TTR has the infamous Tom's Hardware (and related Tom's offshoots) brand in their stable. That was, once upon a time, a brutal and helpful computer hardware review website. Millions of views, then, and possibly even now. But I wonder how many of the original hardcore staff are still around? When's the last time you went to a Tom's website?

Someone, whom I respected, told me that it takes a minimum of 2000 hours of training and experience to learn and use every function/option of the full blown Photoshop software. Only then can you fully understand that one product. OK, now another 2000 hours with Corel, or GIMP, etc. Finally, you're ready to compare and contrast the two competitors. Folks, with this level of competency, are few and far between.

Sometimes, review websites contract with a writer(s) who claims to have a fully qualified opinion. But how does TTR know that person can function at that level. They don't.

So, do you think anyone spent 2000, or even 20, hours learning NF or, likewise, any of the other competitors mentioned? Conclusion: TTR is a barely disguised sales website with nearly useless reviews on almost everything. For example, the "Visit Site" button for Novel Factory goes to the NF website front page. The same button for WIN (#1 on the TTR review summary page) goes straight to Amazon where you can BIN (Buy It Now) WIN.

It has been said "there is no such thing as bad publicity." Only in that case is the appearance of NF in the list, good. The opinions of successful writers who use NF, are the only thing I accept.

Of course, wordlings, this is just my opinion.

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