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Wysardry

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I've been playing around with some of the options in Persona and was wondering how the archetypes in that software would tie in with those in the characterisation section of The Novel Factory.

Does anyone know? Does what you choose make any difference to any other sections in NF?
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I'v heard of Persona, but am not particularly familiar with it, so not sure how it works. 

I can tell you that the archetype lists in the Novel Factory do not affect anything else across the software (they don't prefill other sections or anything like that) - it's deliberately standalone, because we only intended archetypes to be a jumping off point for people to develop and expand on, rather than being a full copy and paste type character. 

But we're always open to new ideas on how to make the features even better - so let me know if you've noticed something you think Persona does really well that we should consider looking at.

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Persona has a total of 32 archetypes (8 heroes, 8 heroines, 8 villains and 8 villainesses) with two different "styles" for each one, giving you 64 choices in total.

Each one is explained in detail (with examples) using the "learn" tab and you can also see how the ones you have chosen mesh and clash using the "interact" tab. This makes it easier to see if your characters are likely to work well together and where conflict might arise.

They also include some example files which include characters from Lord of the Rings, The Avengers and True Blood.

I wouldn't expect all those features to be in NF in addition to its current ones, as Persona is the same price and only handles characters.

Of all its features, I find that showing character interactions to be the most useful, closely followed by the examples/explanations.
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Always willing to try out something new to me - googled 'persona' and found myself in SNAPLY - seems I already had an acccount which I most certainly do not recall opening, but then - age and memory? Whatever, does not seem to be the one which

"Persona has a total of 32 archetypes (8 heroes, 8 heroines, 8 villains and 8 villainesses) with two different "styles" for each one, giving you 64 choices in total.

Each one is explained in detail (with examples) using the "learn" tab and you can also see how the ones you have chosen mesh and clash using the "interact" tab. This makes it easier to see if your characters are likely to work well together and where conflict might arise."

Junior Member - do you have a link to share?
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The word "Persona" in my original post is a link to the official product page (you can also buy it elsewhere).

http://marinersoftware.com/products/persona/
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Thank you for the link. Downloaded and exploring.
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Hi Isabel,

I am a well informed amateur regarding Myers-Briggs (MB) personality typing (MBTI), which has been around for decades. It lists 16 archetypes, described by Carl Jung (yes, Freud's old buddy) based on the original 4 archetypes proposed by Hippocrates (yes, that Hippocrates). It's called Myers-Briggs because a mother-daughter team (Myers and Myers-Briggs) interpreted Jung's work into a guide that the rest of us can understand.

Anyway, whenever I see 4 or 16 or 32 or 64, I am inclined to believe it is MB based.

Persona User's guide says Plato, Jung and others. It's Hippocrates. Please see the following, if interested:

https://personalitylingo.com/personalitylingohistory/

Did you form an opinion about Persona?

Thanks,
Wyatt

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Well, Mariner (company that sells Persona) replied to the same question about sources. Their answer competes with the Tijuana (Mexico) sewer outflows for undesirable content.

It's all their making. They acknowledge no one else. It is brilliant just because they say so. The reply had a mixture of font sizes. Clearly a cut and paste goulash.

IMO, forget Persona.

Thanks for glancing ever so slightly at this.

Wyatt

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